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Season 5, Episodes 16 and 17

The Incident

June 14th, 2009 - 1 Comment

Took me a while to get around to rewatching the finale and writing my notes, but I was never going to not write about the finale. Remember it was a double episode so this post is bound to lengthy.

It’s Jacob!

When does this opening sequence take place? Mid to late 1800’s presumably since that is when the Black Rock apparently went missing. What’s more interesting though is the suggestion that Jacob in fact brought the ship to the island, if that’s the case did he play more of a part in bringing Oceanic 815, the Nigerian drug plan and Henry Gale’s hot air balloon to the island as well?

Who is Jacob’s enemy?

Jacob wasn’t alone in the open sequence, there was a second, unnamed, character on the beach with him. Who was he? There is some suggestion that he could be Esau, the biblical brother of Jacob. Also interesting to note that his clothing is black/dark and the complete opposite to Jacob’s white/light clothing.

It only ends once, everything that happens before that is just progress

Interesting quote form Jacob, hinting that here is some ultimate end-game that we are on the path too, and perhaps we haven’t even seen any indication what this end game may be yet.

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Season 5, Episode 15

Follow the Leader

May 14th, 2009 - No Comments

It’s building up, I can feel it, the two hour finale (three if you include the clip show) just a few hours away, the incident looming, it’s going to be awesome… and then we have to wait for months until the final season starts. Lets start with a crackpot theory.

Are/were there two Dans on the island?

I originally based this on the assumption that Dan would have been older than Charlotte (and Miles), and that the Eloise we see with a young Dan playing the piano looks no much older than the Eloise on the island, meaning it would have to have been reasonably soon after leaving, and also we know that Charles is the father, and he remains on the island for longer than Eloise.

According to Lostpedia Dan was born in 1978 but there doesn’t appear to be any references for this date, its also suggested that if he were, then the scene with young Dan (approx. 10) would have been around 1988, then when we see Dan graduate from Oxford in 1996 (which would in theory make him 18 - not impossible) the character of Eloise has aged a lot in those 8 years, yet doesn’t age much at all between 1996 and 2007.

From this I believe there must be a baby Dan toddling around the hostiles camp, plus if she already had a son named Dan it would explain why Eloise was fairly quick to accept Jack’s explanation of things about them being from the future etc. I’m probably way off, but its fun to theorize a little.

Is Richard building a model of the Black Rock?

Maybe. It is a large ship with sails and a hull…

How did Locke find the others’ beach camp so easily?

I’m guessing “the island told him”, or maybe he just traipsed along the beach until he found them.

Alpert the Adviser

Sun asks Ben who Locke is talking to, he explains that his name is Richard Alpert and that he serves as an adviser of sorts, a role which has had for a very, very long time. Ok, we get it, he’s old, but how old? Did he help build the Statue? Is/was the Statue of Alpert? Does Alpert come from a time/place where man only had 4 toes?

I watched them all die

Sun asks Alpert if he met Jack, Kate, Jin etc in 1977, he tells that he remembers them well because he watched them all die. So I’ll assume they didn’t die from the detonation of the hydrogen bomb because you would expect that that would take Alpert too (maybe). When he says “them all”, who is he referring to? Does he mean everyone on the island, or everyone in the Dharma Initiative, or just Jack, Kate, Jin and the other losties? And for any of those groups, how did they die?

The bomb is under Dharmaville

Eloise tells Jack that the bomb if underneath what is now Dharmaville. To get to the bomb they go through an underwater tunnel into another mysterious, hieroglyphic laden chamber which Alpert refers to as “the tunnels”. Tunnels? interesting. Could these be the same tunnels that Smokey uses to makes its way to all parts of the island? I’m guessing that the “magic room” Ben goes into to summon smokey is also connected to the tunnels. Are these tunnels the same thing, or at least connected to the “cerebus vents” that were marked on the blast door map in the Swan station?

I really hate Phil and Radzinsky

Just saying.
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Season 5, Episode 14

The Variable

May 10th, 2009 - 1 Comment

I know, I’m several days late, sorry about that, but I’m not going to get this close to the end of the season and give up posting my thoughts. Hopefully I’ll find the time to get my “Follow the Leader” post up before this week’s finale.

Des is alive

After being shot by Ben he’s rushed to hospital, while in surgery Penny meets Eloise who explains that she thinks its her son’s fault that Des got shot. Later on we find out Des is in recovery and going to be ok.

Why is Dan back?

He tells miles that its because he saw the 1977 recruit photo with Jack, Kate and Hurley in it. However the real reason is that he knows about the incident and he wants to prevent it from happening.

Destiny? no.

Dan tells Jack and the others that they don’t belong here and that his mother was wrong when she told them it was their ‘destiny’ to go back to the island. Is destiny a faith thing and is that why it doesn’t sit well with Dan, a man of science?

You need to order the immediate evacuation…

When Dan finds Chang at the Orchid (he also notes that he arrived ‘right on time’… did Dan already know that he’d be there at that exact time…) he tells Chang to evacuate the island immediately because there is going to be a massive incident in 6 hours at the swan and he knows because he is from the future. Chang isn’t amused and thinks he’s joking. When Dan tries to explain that Miles is his son and also from the future Miles just flatly denies it.

Do what he’s supposed to do?

Dan tells Miles that he’s trying to make sure he gets Chang to “do what he’s supposed to do”. What is that exactly? I’m assuming that he just means evacuating the island?

Shall we stay or shall we go

The Losties convene at Sawyers place, to discuss what they are going to do now, they’ve basically got two options, try and take the sub and leave the island, or flee back into the jungle and start from scratch again. General consensus is that they spent too long trying to get back only to leave again so soon.

One of them is my Mother

Dan tells the other he needs to find the Hostiles because one of them is his Mother and she’s the only person that can help them get back to where they are supposed to be. Sawyer protests, but after he calls Kate ‘freckles’ Juliet gives Kate the sonic fence codes so that Jack and Her can take Dan out to the hostiles (she’s probably also hoping that Kate doesn’t come back…)
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Season 5, Episode 13

Some Like It Hoth

April 29th, 2009 - 1 Comment

Miles has had his “talk to the dead” thing since he was a kid.

When he discovers his “power” it freaks him out, which is fair enough he’s just a kid, but also freaks his Mother out. She mustn’t know why he can hear the dead, and we still don’t know why either. Is it just a side effect of being born on the island? Or did Pierre volunteer his own son for some weird experiment?

Grid 334

Miles is told to go to Radzinsky at “gird 334”, which Miles says is ‘hostile territory’. It also appears to the be the site where the construction of the Swan station is taking place. It being in hostile territory would be why Radzinsky was so worried when Sayid saw the Swan hatch model. Radzinsky, and the other workers are wearing jumpsuits with the Swan logo on them.

Here we go

After Roger discovers that Ben is missing goes says he’s going to tell security, Juliet looks at Kate and says “here we go” but that’s really the last we see of it apart form seeing Roger boozing it up on the swing set and then later talking to Jack. Maybe he never got to security, or when he did there was no-one there (Sawyer off in the jungle and Miles somewhere between the Swan and the Orchid)

Hurley is writing “The Empire Strikes Back”

I don’t even like Star Wars, but I though this was hilarious. I really enjoy the banter between Hurley and Miles especially when it delves into the mysteries of time (which it didn’t really this time) and they each try their best to debunk each other theories.
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Season 5, Episode 12

Dead is Dead

April 15th, 2009 - 4 Comments

Another great episode, filling in some more missing pieces, opening up a few more questions. This one was big on the mythology side of things, and the only thing we saw from the 1970’s Dharma storyline was a healed Ben still in the hostiles camp.

Ben healed by the temple

It would appear that he’s all healed, and with no memory of what happened, but we still don’t know how exactly the temple healed him, or what the temple is. Ben tells Charles that he doesn’t want to go back to Dharmaville, but Charles says that he can go back and still be “one of them” (the hostiles).

Ben awakes to the ‘land of the living’

He tells Locke that he knew that he’d be alive. When Locke asks him why he’s so surprised if he knew, Ben says its because he could really believe it until he actually saw it for himself.

Why did Ben come back to the island?

Ben claims that he came back to be judged by “smokey” for the things that he’s done. I’m not sure I totally buy this, I think he has other reasons, which is probably why he probably wasn’t expecting Locke to ‘help’ him achieve it, and why he was rather nervous about the whole thing.

The French Acquisition

Ben was sent (along with young Ethan) to kill Rousseau, however Ben wasn’t aware she had a baby, so he kidnapped Alex and threatened, but didn’t kill, Rousseau. When Ben got back to camp, Widmore told him he should have killed the baby. So it appear Widmore wanted Alex dead from the beginning, guess he got his way in the end.
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Season 5, Episode 11

Whatever Happened, Happened

April 8th, 2009 - 1 Comment

Yes this was a Kate episode, which aren’t always the best (think Eggtown from last year) but in-between the slow bits were some good sections of time travel talk and jungle meetings with the hostiles.

Ben isn’t dead

Ok, not surprised at all. Miles said that he wouldn’t die, and Faraday said you can’t change the future so unless Sayid unlocked some magic puzzle allowing him to change the future Ben was never actually going to die.

Kate visits Cassidy

Couple of points here, first up why does Kate so openly tell Cassidy that they’ve been lying about everything? Probably because it was the only way that she would have believed that Sawyer had asked her to find her. And why was Cassidy not more shocked to find out that the random woman who helped her with a small con at a service station way back when just happened to be on the same plane with the guy that is the father of her daughter, and that they would both survive the plane crash and he would then tell Kate to go and visit her to take care of his daughter. Come on, seriously, tell me that you wouldn’t be asking a hell of a lot of questions.

Back to the Future

Hurley sitting at the dining table starring at his hands, waiting for them to disappear Back to the Future style because he think that if Ben dies then he’ll cease to exist. Awesome.

Hurley and Miles discuss time travel

In the absence of Faraday (why on Earth is he?) Mile attempts to explain the complexities of time to Hurley, with quite entertaining results. I’m going to search for a transcript of their discussion because it worth trying to understand, but the general idea is that for the Losties the 1977 they are in is their present its occurring after their previous time on the island, for Ben and the Dharma folk this 1977 is their present. Miles explains that Ben can’t die because he’s still alive in 2004, but the Losties can die because this is happening after 2004 for them… you got that?

After Miles explains all this, Hurley asks why it is then that if this is Ben’s past that he doesn’t remember that Sayid shot him when he was a kid, when they meet again after Oceanic 815 crashes in 2004. We get his answer from Alpert.
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Season 5, Episode 10

He’s Our You

April 1st, 2009 - No Comments

It looks like we’re going back to character-centric stories, and hopefully finding out why each of the Oceanic 6 (apart form those reasons we already know) was on Ajira 316.

Sayid’s “mission” is completed

In Russia Sayid assassinates another supposed threat to the Oceanic 6 at Ben’s direction, and when he reports back Ben tell him that they’re finished, that they’ve eliminated all of Widmore’s people that posed a threat to his friends. He tells Sayid to o and live his life. I don’t know about this, Sayid has seemed fairly agro of late with regards to Ben, I think there has to be more to it than them just ‘parting ways’. If his hatred didn’t come from how their working relationship ended, it was probably more to do with the work which begs the question why did he continue to do it (apart from the fact that Sayid is a natural born killer).

Who’s their him?

When Sayid refuses to talk, Horrace takes him to see Oldham, who lives in a tent somewhere away from the barracks. I wonder if the reason he’s out there has something to do with the reason that Sawyer refers to him as a ‘psychopath’. When Sayid asks Sawyer who this guy is, Sawyer tell him “he’s our you” ie. the village torturer.

I am from the future”

Oldham drugs Sayid which they hope will make him talk. When Sayid starts talking, he spills everything, how he’d been to the island before, arrive vis Oceanic 815, lived there 100 days, got off the island, then returned via Ajira 316. He tells them to “ask Sawyer” nodding toward him, luckily Radzinsky interrupts before they notice. Horrace askes him what he knows about the stations, and Sayid tells that that the Flame is for communications, the Pearl is for watching other stations and the Swan is centered around electromagnetism. Radzinsky believes the only way he could know this is if he were a spy, because they haven’t even built the Swan yet. Sayid then tells them that they are all going to die, and when they ask how he knows this he says its because he’s from the future. Needless to say that at this point the seem to believe that Oldham has simply given Sayid too much of whatever crazy drug he was using and what he’s been telling them is just nonsense. Sayid begins to laugh telling them that they gave him just the right amount.
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Season 5, Episode 9

Namaste

March 25th, 2009 - No Comments

So we now know for sure they are back on the island, thing is that they aren’t all on the same island, in fact they aren’t even all in the same ‘when’. This should mean some more crazy time bending goodness is still to come, sounds good to me.

The runway

Pretty sure during one of the podcasts between season 4 and 5 that Damon and Carlton teased at the possibility that we might see the runway again. The question still lingers as to why it was built in the first place, we’re the other building it because they knew that sometime in the future a plane would need to return to the island?

Thirty years ago”

As they go from Frank, Sun and the other on the beach to Sawyer and co in Dharma time “thirty years ago” flashes up on the screen, as great as this is I think it kind of spoiled the mystery when Frank and Sun turn up as the abandoned barracks towards the end of the episode. I think that this should have been the point when it was revealed that they weren’t in 1977 with the rest of the losties.

Radzinski and the swan

Seems like he is a little crazy, so probably a good chance he really did shoot himself inside the Swan. Since he’s still planning (and building models of) the Swan station it probably doesn’t exist yet, although Pierre Chang is wearing a coat with the swan logo on it when he meets Jack, why would he have that if the station hadn’t been built? I wonder which of the other stations that we’ve seen previously already exist in 1977 (apart from the Arrow).

The baby is Ethan…

Arrgghh… kill it now before it can start hurting the losties. Or not, since the island probably would let that happen (what happened, happened). So in answer to the question from last weeks post, yes, the baby is someone we’ve met before, and yes they are relatively important.
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Season 5, Episode 8

LaFleur

March 18th, 2009 - No Comments

So LOST took a week off and so did I, but its back this week and I can’t wait. I’m ready for some more Dharma action, but until then here’s what I noticed while rewatching LaFleur.

The Statue returns…briefly.

Its taken a while but we’ve finally got a second look at the statue, this time though it was a whole statue not just a solitary foot. So what is it a statue of? I’ve seen a couple of theories around the place that it could be Anubis or something similar, and then there are the theories that its a statue of Sawyer…yeah, maybe not. But when is the statue? It was still in its complete state some time (way) before the well was constructed, but since they didn’t stay in that time for very long we’ll just have to wait and see. I just hope that the brief glimpse isn’t the writers was of resolving the statue questions.

Locke’s turning of the wheel stopped the time jumps

As I think most people were expecting the time jumps did indeed stop when Locke turned the donkey wheel. After the time jump that happens when he’s half way down the well it would appear they’ve gone a fair way back in time (because the (whole) statue is there and the well hasn’t even been built yet, this means that when Locke eventually turned the wheel and ended up in 2007 he traveled a long way forward as well - 30 odd years further than the Sawyer, Juliet and co.

3 years later” is actually 1974

I loved this, “3 years later” and we end up about 30 years prior to where we probably expected to be, deep in Dharma territory. How long they are there for remains to be seen, but given the time jumps have stopped it looks like (as Dan said) they are stuck there. “The record has stopped skipping but we’re not on the track we want to be on”.

Who is LaFleur?

It’s con-man extraordinaire James ‘Sawyer’ Ford that’s who. Somehow he’s ended up as head of security just three years after wandering into Dharmaville, will be interesting to see how that came about since at the moment Horrace has given them two week before he’s going to send them on their way.
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Season 5, Episode 7

The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham

March 4th, 2009 - 4 Comments

Another good episode, initially I was a little disappointed that Locke off-island time was going to be squeezed into one episode, but I think it worked. He wasn’t off the island for very long, only a month or two, and all he really did was visit those who’d left to try and convince them to return, more important is that they’re all back now (except Desmond, who I really hope we see again soon), and the mystery of the island can pick up where it left off.

So, the plane did crash.

When we found out that Jack, Hurley and Kate were back on the island it raised the question about what happened to the plane. Well, it looks like Lapidus crash landed on Hydra Island. Now, where are Sun and Sayid are the on the main island with Jack, Hurley and Kate or on the Hydra with Lock, Ben and the rest of Ajira 316?

Locke is alive again

And it looks like he really is alive, not just magical-reanimated-by-smokey-alive. I’m quite glad Locke is no longer dead (Ben probably won’t be), and since he appears to be really alive after crashing onto the island does that mean that Christian Shephard might also be really alive too and not just a creation of the island as we all thought?

Locke ‘landed’ in Tunisia but three years into the future - more or less.

I was kind of hoping that he would ‘appear’ somewhere else just to mix things up even more, but it makes sense that the island would have one main exit point (Tunisia). We find out that he’s traveled three years into the future, but, remember that as Locke was going down the well towards the donkey wheel that there was a time flash and the well actually vanished. I took this to mean that he’d traveled further back in time (they were pre-Orchid station before the flash), but think about it now it possible that they’d moved forward in time. It would be possible for a well that existed in the 1970s/80s to no longer exist in the 2000s, right?

How long had Widmore been monitoring the exit point?

We can assume that he didn’t start monitoring it until after October 2005 (when Ben appeared in Tunisia) otherwise he would have already known Ben was off the island. I wonder why he started monitoring it to begin with? And remember the polar bear that Charlotte found in Tunisia, it may have come through the ‘exit’ as well, but I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have turned the donkey wheel to do so.
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