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	<title>Previously on Lost &#187; Flash Forward</title>
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		<title>Our present, their&#160;past</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 05:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s something that Miles has been trying to explain to Jack, Kate and Hurley since they arrived in 1977, but when Dan returned in &#8220;The Variable&#8221; he was able to explain it a little clearer for them (albeit in an crazy guy kind of way). What did he explain? Put simply, and this is just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s something that Miles has been trying to explain to Jack, Kate and Hurley since they arrived in 1977, but when Dan returned in &#8220;The Variable&#8221; he was able to explain it a little clearer for them (albeit in an crazy guy kind of way). What did he explain? Put simply, and this is just how I understand it, for the losties 1977 is their present (meaning they can die), for Dharma and the hostiles 1977 is their past (so in theory if they were still alive in 2007 they can&#8217;t&nbsp;die&#8230;yet).</p>
<p>However, and this is where even I get a little confused, those on the island that encounter the losties during that time in their past (both 1954 and 1977) still have memories of their meetings in 2007. For example, Charles Widmore tell Locke that he met him when he was just 17, yet Locke hasn&#8217;t aged a day since then. Locke tells him that its only been four days since they met, despite the meeting taking place in 1954. I&#8217;m not entirely sure how this works, is it similar to what Desmond experienced where he just woke up one day with this new memory. In other words, when did Charles remember remembering meeting&nbsp;Locke?</p>
<p>Then in &#8220;The Variable&#8221; Eloise is telling Charles that she had to send Dan back to the island knowing full well what would happen to him. She knows, because she remembers. How it is that she knows what happens to Dan on the island before she shoots him after she sends him to the island I&#8217;m still not sure (and yes, I&#8217;m aware the sentence didn&#8217;t make much sense). I can work it out in my mind, but couldn&#8217;t explain it in words if my life depended on&nbsp;it.</p>
<p>So, everything that the losties are doing in their &#8220;present&#8221; always happened in the hostiles past, it wasn&#8217;t necessarily the losties doing it but it did happen, for example Ben was probably always shot, and always healed by the hostiles, but in circumstances that didn&#8217;t involve the losties. Make sense? No? Didn&#8217;t think&nbsp;so.</p>
<p>Dan&#8217;s plan was based on his theory that he&#8217;d worked out the important &#8216;variables&#8217; in the complex equation of time, and that these &#8216;variables&#8217; are the people (not sure if he just meant the losties, or people in general). These people have free will etc etc and should be able to think for themselves, despite what they know, and be able to alter what happens in their future (in the case of the losties). But so far almost everything we&#8217;ve seen has really pointed towards time &#8220;course-correcting&#8221; no matter what the losties or anyone else does. The only thing that went against this was when Dan knocked on the hatch door and told Desmond to go and find Eloise, Des awoke with his &#8216;new&#8217; memory of Dan that he seemingly didn&#8217;t have before.<br />
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By detonating the hydrogen bomb, Dan hopes to stop the incident occurring, which will remove the need for Dharma to encase the Swan station in concrete, which removes the need to push a button every 108 minutes, which means Desmond will never not push the button, and that will never cause Oceanic 815 to crash, meaning the losties will never be on the island, they&#8217;ll never have to leave the island, Ben will never turned the donkey wheel, the island and those on it will never skip through time and they&#8217;ll never end up in 1977&#8230;. But, if they never end up in 1977 how will Dan detonate the bomb to prevent those other 47 things from happening. Confused, hell yes. Prediction, don&#8217;t worry about it because I don&#8217;t think they will detonate the&nbsp;bomb.</p>
<p>With &#8220;the incident&#8221; just a few hours away, and Dan, umm, not doing so well, what&#8217;s going to happen in the last couple of episodes? I&#8217;m guessing that the incident will result in the losties returning to the time they belong in (2007), but will it be the same 2007 that they left? Depends if Dan is right or not about being able to alter the&nbsp;future.</p>
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		<title>The Definitive&#160;Flash-forwards</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bought the Lost Season 4 DVDs a couple of days ago, and the first thing I did was start working my way through the bonus features. One of the features, titled &#8220;The Definitive Flash-forwards&#8221;, was something that I&#8217;d been tempted to have a go at myself. Basically its all the flash-forwards put together, in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought the Lost Season 4 DVDs a couple of days ago, and the first thing I did was start working my way through the bonus features. One of the features, titled &#8220;The Definitive Flash-forwards&#8221;, was something that I&#8217;d been tempted to have a go at myself. Basically its all the flash-forwards put together, in the correct order and presented as an episode of its own. It runs for almost an hour, it looks like they trimmed some of the flashes down a little, and it would definitely make the flash forwards make more sense for anyone who had trouble piecing it together&nbsp;themselves.</p>
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		<title>Lost at Comic-Con&#160;2008</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember the ad for &#8220;Octagon Global Recruiting&#8221; that ran towards the end of the season 4 finale, well the dates it mentioned were referring to Comic-Con 208 in San Diego. In addition to what appears to be the beginning of a new ARG to keep us entertained until Season 5 starts next year, the producers [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the ad for &#8220;Octagon Global Recruiting&#8221; that ran towards the end of the season 4 finale, well the dates it mentioned were referring to Comic-Con 208 in San Diego. In addition to what appears to be the beginning of a new <span class="caps">ARG</span> to keep us entertained until Season 5 starts next year, the producers broke their self-imposed &#8220;radio silence&#8221; to talk about some bits and pieces about both the last season and next&nbsp;season.</p>
<p>Now, I wouldn&#8217;t really say that any of these are &#8220;spoilers&#8221; but if you are trying to avoid anything remotely spoiler-like you might notwant to read the Q and A section that&#8217;s after the jump. There we go, vague warning out of the way.<br />
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In addition to the official Lost panel on Saturday, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse also took part in a combined <span class="caps">EW</span> Panel the day before. Doesn&#8217;t sound like they mentioned anything earth shattering, just a few small points about Season&nbsp;5.</p>
<ul>
<li>They were disappointed they didn&#8217;t get to tell the stories of the freighter folk (presumably beyond the main four), but that they will cover them in season 5, and using a different method (whatever that&nbsp;means).</li>
<li>We will be seeing Claire again, but they&#8217;ve said it might be a while, and that it will be explained, and that it will make sense. They also said that there are sometimes paradoxes, but they that do have a&nbsp;&#8220;plan&#8221;.</li>
<li>The characters on <span class="caps">LOST</span> can not change the future, and the flash forwards we&#8217;ve seen are what will happen and won&#8217;t&nbsp;change.</li>
<li>Confirmation that there will be 17 episodes in each of the last two seasons. (One more than originally announced due to slightly shorter Season&nbsp;4)</li>
<li>Filming for season 5 starts in about 3&nbsp;weeks.</li>
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<p><strong>Dharma Initiative Recruiting&nbsp;Project</strong></p>
<p>The new <span class="caps">ARG</span>, also known as &#8220;The Project&#8221; is being done by the same people who did last years Find815 <span class="caps">ARG</span>. I really enjoyed Find815, especially waiting for all the new clues and bits of info, I only hope that this years ties in a bit more consistently with the overall Lost &#8220;canon&#8221;&nbsp;though.</p>
<p>The first few pieces have appeared, with the most interesting being the new Dharma/Marvin Candle video mentioned at the bottom of this post. It would appear that the <span class="caps">ARG</span> &#8220;starts&#8221; on&nbsp;Monday.</p>
<p><strong>Summary of fan questions, and answers from the official <span class="caps">LOST</span>&nbsp;Panel</strong></p>
<p>How accurate these answers are remains to be seen, in all honesty could you blame the producers for just toying with us? Remember they said they would be in total radio silence until Season 5, so take everything they&#8217;ve said with a grain of salt, they might be intentionally leading us up the garden&nbsp;path.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> When the hatch imploded and the sky turned purple, did the Island move then?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> No, but something&nbsp;happened.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> What is the fate of Jin and Locke, are they actually dead?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Jin will still be on the show in some form. You haven&#8217;t seen the last of either of those characters. Death is a relative term. There is a lot of story yet to be told for both&nbsp;characters.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> Will there be a Rousseau flashback?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> We will see Rousseau&#8217;s story in season 5, to use the word flashback might be disingenuous. We&#8217;re steering away from the&nbsp;flashes.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> What happened to Vincent?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> What about what happened to the Island and Sawyer and Juliet? Vincent&#8217;s <span class="caps">OK</span> and will appear in season&nbsp;5.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> Will Kate ever see Sawyer again?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Yes. Kate will see Sawyer&nbsp;again.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> What happened to the non-speaking &#8220;beachies&#8221; who were being ferried over to the freighter at the end of season 4?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> They&#8217;re dead. Faraday is probably going to be&nbsp;ok.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> Is there a limit as to how far the flashes can go back and forth in time?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> We&#8217;re going to tell stories in a new and exciting way. This year, when season 5 starts, you&#8217;re not going to know when and where you are, no constraints. There will be story telling<br />
both on and off the Island and in different periods of&nbsp;time.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> How did Daniel know about the secondary protocol?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> His notebook says what happened and what will happen, and it will figure prominently in season&nbsp;5.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> How old is Richard Alpert and how many toes does he have?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Quite old. We will see Alpert barefoot in the very near future and that puns intended: the very near&nbsp;future.</p>
<p><strong>Q:</strong> Regarding Locke&#8217;s pseudonym Jeremy Bentham, and one of his big things was the panopticon, are the people on the Island being watched, and by who?<br />
<strong>A:</strong> Good question. Their response is cut short when a new Dharma/Marvin Candle video is&nbsp;shown.</p>
<p>Candle reveals that his real name is Pierre Chang, and among other things tells us that Geroge W. Bush is the president, and that if all &#8220;this works&#8221; we&#8217;ll be seeing this video 30 years after it was filmed&#8230;in other words he record this in the late 1970&#8217;s. I think I&#8217;ll cover more about this video in a separate post. <a class="youtube" href="http://www.youtube.com/v/dn_dNsaz-AA&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1" rel="shadowbox;width=425;height=344;" title="Comic-Con 2008 Dharma Video">Watch the&nbsp;video</a></p>
<p><strong>Sources</strong><br />
Clearly since I&#8217;m not in San Diego I couldn&#8217;t have gather this info myself, instead I just combined the more interesting bits from the good coverage at these sites:<br />
<a href="http://livelost.blogspot.com/">http://livelost.blogspot.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/hawaii">http://twitter.com/hawaii</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/tapdawg">http://www.youtube.com/user/tapdawg</a><br />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.docarzt.com">http://www.docarzt.com</a></p>
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		<title>Times are&#160;shifting&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve already covered bits of this in a couple of other posts, but episode 2 &#8220;Confirmed Dead&#8221; adds some interesting points to my&#160;argument. On the Island it is supposedly almost Christmas 2004, remembering that the plane crashed on the 22nd September&#160;2004. In Find815 the main character Sam made mention that he wouldn&#8217;t be home for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already covered bits of this in a couple of other posts, but episode 2 &#8220;Confirmed Dead&#8221; adds some interesting points to my&nbsp;argument.</p>
<p>On the Island it is supposedly almost Christmas 2004, remembering that the plane crashed on the 22nd September&nbsp;2004.</p>
<p>In Find815 the main character Sam made mention that he wouldn&#8217;t be home for Christmas (no year mentioned), which would lead you to believe that the expedition he was on was taking place around December/January. Originally I thought this was taking place at the end of 2007/start of 2008, to coincide with the &#8220;press release&#8221; from Oceanic stating that they would begin flying again on the 31st December 2007. Seemed to make sense that they would abandon the search, and then resume flying. Right?<br />
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The conclusion of Find815 saw the discovery of Flight 815 in the Sunda trench. This is then reported at the beginning of &#8220;Confirmed Dead&#8221; linking the two stories together, but creating more questions than it answers&#8230;as&nbsp;usual.</p>
<p>In order for the team of Freighters to be assembled and then sent to Island you could assume that the &#8220;wreckage&#8221; of 815 was discovered no later than mid-December 2004. Of course its likely that it could have been discovered earlier, but thats not my argument. Even if what we saw in Find815 was taking place in 2004 it doesn&#8217;t line up, since the freighters have landed on the island before Sam Thomas and Christiane 1 have discovered the&nbsp;wreckage&#8230;</p>
<p>From &#8216;Confirmed Dead&#8217;, we know that the wreckage was definitely discovered before they were assembled and sent to the island. So the question is, were the &#8216;flashes&#8217; that we saw in this episode &#8216;flashbacks&#8217; or &#8216;flashforwards&#8217;&#8230;stay with&nbsp;me.</p>
<p>I have a theory that the freighter is in fact connected to Penny, but not the Penny that Charlie spoke to when he disabled the jamming equipment. That was 2004 Penny, who knows nothing about any freighter. A &#8216;future&#8217; Penny might know something about it. Why do I think Penny is connected to the boat, because when Naomi first lands on the Island she is in possession of a photo of Desmond and&nbsp;Penny.</p>
<p>Timeline could then be something like this. Plane crashes in September 2004, wreckage found end of 2004 (by Christiane 1), freighters assembled in 2005, freighters land on Island end of 2005 (their time&#8230;which is only the end of 2004 on the island), some of the Losties are rescued early 2006, Hurley goes nuts late 2006, Jack goes nuts early 2007&#8230;weirdness ensues&#8230;Jack gets back to the island for the series&nbsp;finale&#8230;</p>
<p>In other words time on the island is running at a different rate to time off the island. And really what other good reason is there for the obvious lack of years being mentioned around certain events if there is nothing strange happening. I think that makes&nbsp;sense.</p>
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